What if i get a third class degree




















Statistics, data and real evidence of your accomplishments clearly demonstrate your success, and make it clear to potential employers that you're not just all talk. Use your CV as an opportunity to show industry insight and knowledge of the company you're applying to too. Dig a little deeper than what you can find from a quick Google search or stalk of their LinkedIn page, because that's what most candidates will do.

Can you subscribe to industry magazines or join LinkedIn groups that offer insights? Do you know someone who works for the company that can offer some inside info? Has the company featured in the press recently, and why? Any nuggets of insight you can gain that others can't, will get you noticed. Conveying your personality on an A4 piece of paper can be difficult, but try to make your CV as 'you' as possible.

Everyone is organised, ambitious and a good team player - before putting pen to paper, spend time really thinking about what unique qualities you possess and where you've demonstrated these. Focus on real experiences rather than empty business jargon and always write in first person. Consider including a hobbies and interests section too - they're a great opportunity to show more personality, and if nothing else, may help you be more easily remembered e.

Networking is a really useful tool for securing a graduate job regardless of your grade, but if you've got a third class degree, putting the graft in and getting your name out there is even more important.

I wouldn't advise anyone to leave gaps on their CV - and three years is a big one. Oceanrower 23 Apr JJL 23 Apr In reply to owlart: Generally I see significantly more well-qualified applicants than I need to sensibly shortlist.

Therefore I'm looking for reasons to exclude, rather than include people. It's an easy sift to take out poor degrees. I'd rather employ a school-leaver with decent A-levels who has done something else with 3 years of their life. Doug 23 Apr In reply to Doug: To contrast, I always put my degrees and class on my resume. After all, I fairly proud of what I achieved at Uni - both undergrad and masters.

More so the undergrad as I signficantly struggled financially. Edradour 23 Apr LastBoyScout 23 Apr In reply to owlart: I gave a job to someone that had dropped out of Uni - mainly personal reasons - about 4 years ago.

He's turned out to be very good and we've still got him. In reply to Bruce Hooker: it wasnt for everyone bruce- i'm not as old as you but i can remember how crap many things were- cars that broke down and were death traps by modern standards, eating the same meal macaroni cheese for days at a time because it was all we could afford, it being bloody cold all the time because there was no central heating or double glazing.

Tall Clare 23 Apr In reply to owlart: I've just delivered a couple of professional development seminars to a group of photography students and one thing I've been emphasising is the amount of transferrable skills they've accrued - negotiation, project management, budget management, etc.

All things I'd be interested in if recruiting, potentially more so than the class of a degree. That said, if I was recruiting and someone mentioned on their CV that they had a third, it would get me wondering how they'd managed that Were you in the climbing club and if so is there still a bar meet every Tuesday night in the Union Bar?

Last I heard was that there are two clubs now and one meets at a climbing wall instead of the bar which sounds a bit serious! I wasn't joking when I said I'd been lucky, we organised an expedition with the IC Exploration Board help in my second year and as I kept in touch I was able to tag on to two others replacing people who dropped out at the last minute It was a good time for climbers too Tim Chappell 23 Apr In reply to owlart: Would I employ someone with a third class degree?

You know what--it might depend what I wanted to employ them as. In reply to Bruce Hooker: yup, i'm not really complaining- like i said, i look back on those times as happy despite the comparative lack of material wealth. In reply to Milesy: Listen to Milesy, he knows his stuff despite the Inca lip.

D student. I can't think of any other context where the term is used. It's odd as none of my Qualifications are in anyway specific to my job. In reply to owlart: I'm reporting you Milesy for sending me threats via email. In reply to doz generale: It's protection against identity theft and illegal immigration. Pain in the arse for me as an employer as well In reply to owlart: Never mind a 3rd class degree, I've got a and a P. If you're prepared to travel you'll find work.

What subject? I am qualified to teach post compulsory, i. There are loads of jobs pre 16, very few post Seriously it's desperate out there. As such you are clearly untrustworthy and not fit for this job It is a long stretch on the part of the employer and once you are past the propbationary stage of employment should be easily defended against. Cheers LD. George Ormerod 24 Apr In reply to owlart: Unless it's a shiney-arsed graduate I never ask and I haven't put it on my CV for 20 years.

Experience is more important. George Desmond from Scumbag Poly, Nottingham. I got honours but forgot to put it on the cv. We have the engineering professional body that accrediting the university degrees. Also, one of your thesis assessors is from the uni, the other from the professional body least when I did it, perhaps my uni was special at the time. The end result of all this in my observation is one thing: Here having the degree counts for a lot. The uni isn't important as the professional body ensures a reasonable standard, and if you do get a degree the profession for the most part considers you competent enough.

If you weren't you should never have been given a degree. Minneconjou Sioux 24 Apr In reply to owlart: Age when doing the degree is a factor. I left school at 16, didn't do A levels and came out of the army at 29 scratching my arse and wondering what to do. I appled to Uni and got in on a mature student's ticket I had a diploma in Ag after seeing just how thick some officers were.

I figured that if they could get a degree so could I. My then girlfriend who is now my wife and whom I met on the course was only a young thing and only just got a 2. I was just more focussed and disciplned. So, as an employer, a 22 yr old with a third might get a look but a 30yr old new grad with a 3rd might not.

In reply to Minneconjou Sioux: A few other things: They don't have degree grades over here in Canada so it isn't a factor. As someone who didn't have a degree at the age of 33 and did have one at the age of 34 I know that I wasn't any more intelligent after than before. I will happily employ non-grads who show me that they have some spark. Never ever employ anyone with an MBA.

Bruce Hooker 24 Apr In reply to Blue Straggler: The club was really just a group of people who hired a Transit van every other weekend and climbed together, with beer on Tuesday nights, nothing very structured. On the other hand my best friends still date from then even though they live all over the world.

Apparently IC itself has changed enormously, according to one of these friends who gives lectures there occasionally, it is very much involved in selling places to foreign graduates who are very much there for studying Milesy 24 Apr In my last job they were interviewing and some girl came fresh out of Glasgow uni with her first class honours, and demanding 25k to boot for her first position.

Would you have continued to struggle with the hours of detailed study required of new starters? Is it possible that your 'dream job' might have made you miserable? Consider the idea that you might actually have dodged a bullet and start looking for something you might enjoy for the next 18 months. Suddenly, everything will feel much more doable. Online networking sites mean you can advertise yourself to potential employers.

Many firms approach appealing-sounding personalities via cyberspace so compile a compelling Twitter profile, link it to your LinkedIn page, add hash tags to attract new followers and start tweeting knowledgably and entertainingly about your chosen industry. You can glean fodder from trade magazines and while you're at it note down any useful names mentioned in articles and approach them by letter or email. If you discover that a society or association relevant to your line of interest is holding a public event, turn up and get chatting.

Eventually you're bound to meet someone who might help your cause. However hard the struggle, don't lose confidence in yourself because it will show.



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