Why is it called a bergen

But have you looked at their current range? In reply to Trangia: Ha! It's not my knowledge - I'm just handy with a search engine I expect those dates are earliest occurrences in print and the words probably occurred earlier in spoken language.

And yeah Bergen would be Norwegian In reply to GrahamD: From the looks of it that would be the original meaning a small cloth bag on a strap worn over one shoulder to carry havercakes or oatcakes , but in current English usage it's a synonym for backpack. In reply to simonharpham: It may be common but not universal. My father and grandfather always made a distinction between a rucksack and a haversack. Especially important because at the time it was cool to have a khaki canvas rucksack from the army and navy preferably with added 'designer' frayed bits and covered in felt tip band logos but an otherwise equivalent khaki haversack was naff and basically a satchel.

In reply to Trangia: Weren't the original knapsacks gas mask bags? Xharlie 26 Jan Excluding my monstrous yellow hardcover one, which is currently 20km away, at home.

This sort of sliding vowel sound may be common in english but is almost never found in German. I know it is the technically correct substitution, I still find it unhelpful. In reply to GrahamD: I think you are right. In the days of 37 pattern webbing on school field days "Haversack" rations were issued which were carried in a small pack with a single strap. I'm sure John Peel would have known the difference, with his references to "adjusting your webbing".

I thought Bergan came in to distinguish the brand of scandinavian style rucsack issued to Commandos etc in WWII which had that brand name from the normal webbing horror pack perhaps they got them from Black's - That Bergan style was sold in outdoor shops well into the 70s - I had one before I knew better things existed.

Triangular metal frame with leather straps and a kidney banging strap across the lower back. In reply to GrahamD: The ex wwII haversack was often used as a"bait bag" by men going to work when I was growing up - don't know when that died out.

In reply to Doug: I meant when used as a military term. In reply to GridNorth: I suspect that they were named after something from the Skiing firm that still exists, but were mistakenly called Bergen after the place almost everyone had heard of and associated with Norway. In reply to Trangia: Found it, the Bergen is the Pattern '42 Bergen Rucksack made for special forces use based on a design by Bergans, a Norwegian manufacturer.

Continued use of the term Bergen by the military is now a colloquialism. In reply to DerwentDiluted: the external frame was patented by Oetzi's people long before! What do I take on a walk? Trangia 26 Jan Siward 26 Jan In reply to Trangia: What do people take on a fortnight's backpacking? Can you think of a better word to describe the behaviour of someone who is actually not ex military at all, but wants other people to think they are by casually dropping military terms into their speech?

You must have come across these slightly sad individuals? SenzuBean 26 Jan In reply to Trangia: Tramping pack is what they're called in NZ. My crag bag surprised nobody mentioned this one? Jim Walton 31 Jan In reply to Trangia: I've always called it a Pack. If it's good enough for the Stone Roses then it's good enought for me.

Fuchs 19 Feb However, in English I say backpack. I am unsure why English maintains two words for the same thing, which seems awfully wasteful and inefficient to me That is, unless there is a difference in meaning? In reply to Fuchs: backpack is american - first time I remember it being used was for the Apollo astronauts. I suppose we imported the term backpacking and then backpack itself.

Was always rucksack for me and still is. Ruck without the umlaut actually translates as "jerk" - not the insult, but as in a sharp pull. I wonder how that derivation came about? JEF 19 Feb Our store offers a broad range of large army bergens and durable patrol packs in a variety of sizes, colours and camouflage patterns, to help you transport all the necessary gear while in the outdoors. Here at Military 1st, you can find a selection of quality and robust backpacks with spacious main compartments, numerous external pockets and attaching points as well as advanced carrying systems and removable aluminium frames for further support.

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Brandit Aviator Backpack Olive. In the U. Instead, the load is mainly diverted to padded hip belts. Why hip belts? A good backpack for adventuring will be crafted of waxed canvas or a technical fabric. But, you can also find daily-use backpacks for adults.

Find one crafted with premium leather and a laptop sleeve , and you have an exceptional pack for campus or the office. Or, if you use your backpack for traveling, explore our other leather travel bag options. A rucksack is essentially a large, rugged backpack. This type of pack has pockets and belts used for holding heavy loads and accommodates a more substantial amount of gear than a backpack.

Rucksacks can also have hip belts and often chest belts as well.